Naked Villainy ([info]nakedvillainy) wrote,
@ 2008-02-27 08:02:00
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Current mood:Wow.

What I learned at day care.
For my "pediatric rotation," I spent two days at a day care. This is because the local children's hospital will not allow students in, but we have to get our hands on kids in some fashion.

Day one: 18 four-year-olds

1. If you name your child "Odin" you deserve what you get.
2. Both teachers privately told me that they didn't like this age group. Well, guys, it shows.
3. That kid who goes around all day with a dark frown on his face, pinching and hitting every kid he passes? He'll be seeing a lot of school administrators in the future.


Day two: 12 one-year-olds

1. If you name your child "Dash" you deserve what you get.
2. Forcibly holding a child down while she screams is not the way to make her take a nap.
3. If you think your shirt can't possibly get any more snot/saliva/formula/yogurt on it, you're wrong.

Overall, I was surprised at how much the kids were expected to do -- even the babies took their paper plates and cups to the trash and then lined up to be cleaned up. But there was barely any sort of curriculum for the older kids. They got about two minutes worth of calendar discussion, were shown a square and the number 19, and were released to art projects. Their teachers are supposed to have early childhood education backgrounds, but didn't think to put together an art project that involves 19 squares?

The one-year-old room really set me against day care. This place is an expensive, well-organized facility used by the upper-middle class folks of Wedgwood. Even with those advantages, these kids are warehoused in a room with two adults who don't interact with them other than to say "No!" or "Come eat." And with the above mentioned questionable practices, I wouldn't want to send my kid anywhere for the day until he or she could actually *tell* me what's going on.




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[info]carpe_noir
2008-02-27 05:18 pm UTC (link)

?

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[info]tlatoani
2008-02-27 05:53 pm UTC (link)
If you name your child "Odin" you deserve what you get.

He puts his own eye out and plays with the neighborhood ravens?

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[info]nakedvillainy
2008-02-27 05:59 pm UTC (link)
Well, yeah.

;-)

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[info]tlatoani
2008-02-27 06:27 pm UTC (link)
Shouldn't that be:


.-)

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[info]nakedvillainy
2008-02-27 06:31 pm UTC (link)
This is why we elect you to be the captain. You got the smarts.

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[info]rvdammit
2008-02-27 07:53 pm UTC (link)
Smart guy=science officer
Captain=Gets in all the fights and gets all the hot alien chicks

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[info]tlatoani
2008-02-27 08:23 pm UTC (link)
Ah, but I'm a Pirate Captain. Trust me, it's different. Well, the hot chicks part isn't. ;-)

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[info]cochese
2008-02-27 09:27 pm UTC (link)
But if he's winking, it's ,-)

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[info]tlatoani
2008-02-27 10:56 pm UTC (link)
Sad to say, I also thought of that one...

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[info]drusni
2008-02-27 07:56 pm UTC (link)
these kids are warehoused in a room with two adults who don't interact with them other than to say "No!" or "Come eat." And with the above mentioned questionable practices, I wouldn't want to send my kid anywhere for the day until he or she could actually *tell* me what's going on.

...which is one of the many reasons we are keeping IP home with J until he gets older. I'm not convinced that daycare does any good, for socialization or otherwise, until kids are at least 4. It's good for IP to stay home with J, and J (most of the time) enjoys it.

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[info]nakedvillainy
2008-02-27 08:02 pm UTC (link)
I totally agree. Some of those babies are there for twelve hours a day, doing nothing more than fighting over blocks, and being fed and diapered. The four-year-olds were actually talking to one another, problem-solving, and learning to interact appropriately with their peers.

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[info]edwinvoskamp
2008-02-27 09:04 pm UTC (link)
Mmmm, purely out of a professional interest in data vs. information, was there a difference between four-year-olds that had been going to daycare before that age and ones that hadn't?

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[info]nakedvillainy
2008-02-27 09:17 pm UTC (link)
I wasn't given that sort of information, so I have no idea. From just the day's observation, it seemed to me that the 4-year-olds' verbal ability allowed for explanation and modeling from the adults, making for more teachable moments.

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[info]edwinvoskamp
2008-02-27 09:05 pm UTC (link)
Mmmm, as a counter argument I stayed home until I went to kindergarten at age 4 ...

(And, technically, I was asked to stay away from kindergarten after a short while there, and stayed home again until I went to primary school)

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[info]nakedvillainy
2008-02-27 09:18 pm UTC (link)
I think you're a special case, regardless of what aspect we discuss. ;-)

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[info]tlatoani
2008-02-27 10:57 pm UTC (link)
Yeah. You got tossed out of kindergarten? That's harsh... I got in trouble occasionally, but they never tossed me out.

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[info]a2macgeek
2008-02-27 08:05 pm UTC (link)
Yes, this is why my sister chose to stay home with her kids, as well. I think she started them in pre-school a few days a week at around three, mostly for the social interaction factor. She's struggling right now with whether the youngest will be old enough for it in the fall (he'll be 3 months shy of 3 years then, so younger than his sisters were).

I find it said that the teachers don't like the 4-year-old age group - I think that's one of the most fun ages. Unless what you want is for the kids to just sit still and shut up, so you don't have to interact with them.

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[info]nakedvillainy
2008-02-27 08:12 pm UTC (link)
They both said it was because there wasn't enough teaching to do. But they didn't even attempt anything like a lesson. It was pretty weird.

The four-year-olds were pretty sweet. One little girl asked me about a scratch on my hand when I came in at 8:30am. I told her a cat had scratched me. Eight hours later, when I was leaving, she walked up to me, took my hand out of my pocket, and kissed the scratch. When are you ever going to have that sort of interaction with another human being?

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[info]a2macgeek
2008-02-27 08:53 pm UTC (link)
I know, it's one of the things I love about little kids.

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[info]miabarimen
2008-02-27 08:56 pm UTC (link)
(shrug) We've had the munchkin in day care and then preschool since he was an infant, excepting ~ 6 mos - ~18 mos that Daddy stayed home with him. He's had a wonderful time, grown and matured amazingly well, is and always has been incredibly social and interactive. Has been preparing his own snacks, dressing himself, cleaning up his messes, and engaging in creative personal and social play just about since he could talk. Montessori day care was a wonderful experience for him, and he jumped into first grade with both feet. And if the teachers don't have a lesson plan for the four-year olds, then they're not good teachers. Certainly there are day care centers that have good developmentally appropriate curricula.

But, as always, YMMV.

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[info]tlatoani
2008-02-27 09:10 pm UTC (link)
Yeah. I suspect day care centers -- like everything else -- vary a lot.

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